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Latest       Unsorted	Добавить комментарий Ваше имя: e-mail для связи: Введите Anti-spam код Какой товар вам нужен? (коротко) Describe your order in free form: What application do you need: [---] web-site: OS2FAQ/?action= your contacts * email: [---] Upgrade ArcaOS to NeoWPS level Install original PNG icons drawed by designer, specialized at OS/2 adornation. Install eSchemes 2018 to change colors and buttons on desktop. Evolutionary sprint 2008/11 TITLE: Evolutionary sprint 2008/11 DATE: 2008-11-29 17:29:22 AUTHOR: eCo Software Please use online translator go to http://translate.google.com and request the translation of http://en.ecomstation./projects/reviews/index.php?id=189 to your language We have presented "Evolutionary Sprint 2008/11" at Warpstock Europe 2008 conference. What is Evolutionary Sprint? Evolutionary = don't migrate to other platform Sprint = 2-3 years to improve situation (starting from fall 2006) We don't offer stop and stay with old system. We offer follow the progress in frames of OS/2 platform. The goal is bring prosperity to people which use eComStation (OS/2 Warp) today. Give the job to the developers. Question: What is the need in OS/2 Warp platform? Why invest time into eComStation? + .., ...... ...... ....... + .., ...... shareware - ..., ..... ........ ....... + .., ................ .......... - ...... . .........., ........... ....... .... .......... ...... .... .... ......... ............. . OS/2. ...... 1: What do users want to know? What to do? eCS is developed by community, not a corporation. => that's why we should find the answers all together. Users have questions: soft: Where is software, how to create it without investments? hard: How to run eCS on modern PC? population: How to attract more users so life becomes more fun and interesting. niche: What is the niche, area of usage? expansion: Why no advertisement of eCS on other markets? Are you going conquest new markets? Section 2: eComStation in the past The history of eComStation is represented on this picture: Brief history of eComStation (russian language) ...... 3: ........ .. ..... eCS ....... Why eCS is alive? because there are huge investments into drivers support. You can run eCS on any modern PC. 1) What happened with IBM satelites? * . .. ...... ............. = ........, ...... ...... ...... ......... ...... ibm, ... .... innotek . scitech, ...... ... 0., ...... ...... . ...... ....... .... ...... ......... ......... 2) (Hadrware) What happens on the market today? Users are purchasing mini-notebooks Users upgrade to Core Duo, Quad Core eComStation should be ready for this hardware. It is ready since 90-th. 4) (Market) ... ....... ..........? Today ...... ....... Mensys - .... ...... 50 .. 150 ... ............. . COM-........ ............, ISDN, firewall ........ ......... (...... ......... .......... .........., ..... .........) ........ ........ 5) ....... ....... . ... ......... ......... ........... 6) ..... ....: * ......... ...-.. ............ .... .., ... ......., ........ ..... ...... 4: Model of eComStation community To discuss eComStation, we should build a model, to simplify the object of research. you remember the village: ... ... .... ......: ......... .. ........ ... ...... . ....... ......... ........ ...... ........ .......... ......: ... ........ ......... .. IBM. ... .......... ... .......? ... ........ ........ .... . ....., ... ......... ... ..... .... . ...... . .........., . ............. 0 .........., 0 ....... ... . ......... Lotus Notes 4.x ... eComStation? ... .... . ...... CD/DVD? ... .... ... .. ... ......... ... .. ..... ...... ................. .. 6-12 ......., .. ............ .. ....., ... ...... ......? ........... ...... .. ...... ....... ..... ............ ..... ............ ........ ... ....? .....: ....... ......... ............ PIC: ......., ...... ........ ...... ....... ..........., ..... .......... ...... ..... Lotus Notes . ...... + 3 ......... ........ .. ............ ......, 30% ........ ........ ...... .......... ....... . ..... ......... FIX: .. ..........., ... ... ........ ... ......? ....... - ... ...... . ........ . ...... . ...... ...-...... ......... ..... ........... .......... .. . ........... .... ..... - ..... ........, ... ....... . ...... ..... Lotus - .........? ..... Lotus - ........ ..... IBM - ....., ..... .....? ...... - ... .........? ..... ........,... ........ ...-.. .. 3x3 ..... ........... .... ........, .. ...... ........ . ....... ..... ...... ............... The whole presentation is related to this model, how to live in such conditions, what are the goals. ...... 5: ........ .. .....? ..... .. ..... ........? ... .... ..... (Success), .... . ... .............. ...... .. ....... .. .. ..... PC, . ... .. 200 ......... PC ??? .......: 1. .., eCS ....... .... ... ........... ........ .... eCS - ........ ... ........... ........ . ...... ..... .. ... ........... 2. .., .. ..... ........ . .. ..... .......... ..... ....... . Windows ........ ......... 3. .., ....., .... ..... PC ........ . .... ...... ...... .......... ............ ......., ..... .... .................. eCS ........ .. PC.. 4. YES, if care about design of *all* graphical applications. (Ugly screenshots = 0 new users, More nice screenshots - more new users) 5. .., .... ............. "...... ......... .......... ......... ......... ............... ........... :)" (q) Joseph 6. .., .... .......... ....... .......: ..., ..........., .. ..... ..... . . ......... .......... 7. .., ........ - . ........ 10 killing-.......... ..... ............ ........... ......... ....... . ..... - ... ...... .... ...........-........-.......... ........ - . .......... success-stories ............. . ......... 8. .., ..... ..... ... eCS ....... . 1000 ... ...... ..... - ...... ........, ...... ...... 9. .., ...... ... ...... ......... ...... ..... ......... ..... ......... eCS, .. ..... .......... . ............. ... ......, ..... ... .. ..... - ...... ........ ..... .... .......... .......... 10. .., .... Standartization: eCS installer UI .. bug-reports standartization: ACPI logs, Uniaud logs 11. .., If More companies start working on eComStation market. .. ... ..... .....: if eCS has 1 million of users if there are toolkits: Qt4, .. 12. .., .... ........ . .. ..... ........., ....... ......... ........ ..... ...... 13. .., ...., .... ......... ..... .......: ........... ..... .. 14. .., ...., ....., ............. . .......... ........ 15. .., .... ... .... 50 shareware/commercial products. 16. .... ...... ......... ......... ........... . Windows ..... ........... 17. ....... ......... ........... ....... .. ......., ............... .. ...... ...... .... .. .... ............ ............: ........ eComStation = .......... .... (ACPI, .........) x ....... x ......... ............ x ......... x .. x ....... .... .... .. .... .. .... .......... ..........., .. ..... ............ . ..... ...... 6: .... ....... (Goals) // ... ........: .... ...., . .... ....... PIC: ....., .. ....... N ...... .... . 5 .. ....... .... .... ..... 0: .... ..... ........ ......... ........... ..... .......... CD.. ........ .... 0. ..... ... .... ............ - 100% .......... windows? .: .. .... ...... . ...... .. ... . ...... ......., . ... rexx, ...... UI, ...... ... ........... .... ...... .....- ...... ........ ...... .... ...... .... 1. ".......... ............ ......", .............: .......... ......... Methods: ??????????? .... 2. .......... ............ ....... ........ ........: ".., . ....... .. ...... ....... ...... ......... " ........ ... . ......... ....: ... . ... ..... ......... ............. . ......... ... ..... ...... ........ . ......... ..... .............. ........: ....... 20 ....... .........., ..... eComStation ..... .... ......... .... . . ...... .... 3. ......... / make people create solutions, students/labs - create tools/technologies. .... 4: Now the system is maintained by the community, internal resources, all are tired. The goal: attract more companies, they should invest resources/money to keep the platform alive. attract new users which can support eCS developers. Requirements: 10'000 users -> 100'000.. 1'000'000 customers. .... 5: Goal #1 -- increase population of eComStation community. 10000 up to 100'000 active users. This is real if create 100 new small/medium applications .... 6 -- Replace IBM code with new code. This is possible if there are 10 fulltime professional developers ...... 7: ROADMAP: ... ............. ......... . 2008? 2 0 0 7 eComStation PC Starting from 2007 we can declare that eComStation is working on any modern PC again. If you see a computer with such logo - it is running on eComStation. Welcome to eComStation PC site which contains common information about supported hardware. Visit the database of supported hardware (more than 1300 reports) to find details. eComStation supports popular peripheral devices: USB Mass storage devices (flash disks, digital cameras) Laser postscript printers CD/DVD/Blu-ray disk drives Community ... Community -- ........, ......, .. (........ .......... .....) .........: 2008/03 -- DVB-T support in Emperoar TV 2008/07 -- ..... ....-...... ........ ...... Papyrus 2008/07 -- .......... . APSoft ... Socket Services 2 0 0 8 -- OpenOffice.org 2.4 betas, GA version. 2 0 0 8 -- always the latest Thunderbird, Firefox!! -- GOOD 2 0 0 8 -- (planned in 2007) PMView updates -- OK (ESWay 2007) 2 0 0 8 -- New eCS components and utilities: A disc resizer that enables you to make room on systems with a FAT32/NTFS partition. So you can install eCS next to it. ...........: RAW - Fail SMPlayer kmp, .. monkey's audio eCo Tunes z!, PM123 ................ .........: eCS 2.0 -- User interface of eComStation is lifted. All new separate PM-controls are included to eComStation -- OK (ESWay 2007) Visit the presentation related to User Interface for eComStation. ........: 2 0 0 8 -- ACPI, whatsnew: (ESWay 2007) Based on latest Intel source code (...... ...... ......... ...... .. Intel) Improved Suspend/resume ... APIC SMP, you can read success stories. ......... ........ ... ACPI mutexes to execute many requests in parallel updated ACPI toolkit improved PowerOff partial Acer notebooks support 2 0 0 8 -- Genmac is added to eCS 2.0. Genmac wrapper -- it's necessary support users and help them to collect unofficial drivers. Current state, Thorolf Godawa: "for most people it's working, some people are using the unsupported mode to get working no supported adapters but that's all. " 2 0 0 8 (summer) -- Mensys started modification of USB Stack (based on eCo Software sources) There are no real bug lists. Rather a first thing to get all USB drivers working and do some basic code merges. Thats already enough work. After that we can do a first release of a new stack. But that will be some months a way. Its also for after eCS 2.0 this new USB stack. 2 0 0 8 (July) -- CUPS is working via network. (Lost components are rewritten) 2 0 0 8 (Summer) -- Improve support of flash disks (step 1: describe current method -- eCo Software), step 2: improve drivers. ...., ........ .......... usb-...... ...... ... ........ ...... ... ............ usb-....... 2 0 0 8 -- Uniaud - HDAudio, the driver includes patches from: (ESWay 2007) Paul Smedley eCo Software patches Richard Jerant more people (nogiwan) Importance: New models are supported, no traps. Sound support should be ideal. eComStation PC is used to make money usually, so users need the sound in the background. Every user needs excellent sound/music support (Internet radio, etc.) Usable for Internet radio. It's very good that we have sound now -> increase of multimedia apps sellings -> market reanimation 2 0 0 8 -- USB Flashdisks site, eComStation is able to work with any USB MSD device ....: 2 0 0 8 -- SMP kernel is default now (ESWay 2007/11), Requirement of ACPI sub-system, eCS works faster, CPU is not loaded This is required to make eCS work on all systems with 4 GB RAM. To work device drivers properly. 2 0 0 8 -- (ESWay 2007/11) PROTECTONLY=YES is default, no, investing efforts to support VDM, New VPIC.SYS is developed as part of ACPI project 2 0 0 8 -- New OS2LDR is created -- http://ecomstation.ru/kernel Features: Future: EFI support, Vista disk support. 2 0 0 8 -- Kernel is rewritten. It is useful for ACPI research only, for developers. Read more: http://ecomstation.ru/kernel API ..: SDL/2 ready for Panorama VESA eCo Software runtime GCC 3.x.x, 4.x.x .....: 2008/03 -- (esway-525): "It's necessary publish books: Questions and answers (esway-525)" BookA, BookB, BookC (RUS) -- OK 2008/08 -- English eComStation FAQ is available from eComStation resellers 2 0 0 8 -- New shareware products (this is an indicator of market growth) Searchplus NeoWPS ? eCS FAQ brochure DevCon ? CD/DVD Toys eCo Tunes 2 0 0 8 -- NLS: eCS REFORM. eCS All-in-one. All languages on one CD. Else the translators can't work. Works on eComStation/japanese English, German, Russian, Italian, (Dutch?), Japanese and Traditional Chinese. More applications use LANGE library. New hardware: netbooks: Users know how to install eCS on ASUS EeePC, MSI .. -- ......... ..! Asus launched the Eee PC 701 in October 2007. . ...... . 2008 .. 2012 ... ....... ....... ........ .......... . 10 ..., ........ DigiTimes .. ....... .. ............ Gartner. . ....... .... . .... ..... ....... 5,2 ... ....-........., . 2009 .. - 8 ..., . . 2012 .. ....... ......... ........ ......... ........ . 50 ... ....... .... .... . ......... ........... . .......... ...... .. 5 .. 10 ......, ....... ........ ... ........... ........... ............ ....... Windows XP ... Linux. ......... Gartner ........ ....... "......", ......, . ...... ...... .... .... ...... . ..... ............ ........, ... .... ...... ... ...... ........... Intel . ...... 2008 .. . .......... ......... ......., ............... . ........ ... ...... . ......... Panorama VESA for netbooks Developer New control elements libdart library, libkva video library (WO, SNAP, DIVE) GCC 4.x.x is available. New classes, important for Mozilla and modern applications. eCo Software Developer Connection is updated. Visit the presentation related to DevCon eComStation eCS 2.0 is released .... ESWAy 2008/11 -- Reconquista.. ...... ........ There were eCS 2.0 RC3??? RC4, RC5, RC6 released Bootable JFS, Genmac, ACPI improvements. Why eCS release is delayed? IF release without planned features then eCS sellings fail and eCS market crash. .. ......? Networking Samba client is debugged, Samba server is used in some companies. The developers are making front-ends to manage Samba server, users. A Samba client. A lot of work has gone into this project to make eCS be able to connect to Samba server. Samba protocol is used to communicate with modern storage devices like NAS (Network Attached Storage). HOT: As you can see, the development of eComStation follows the Evolutionary Sprint plan. ... ..... . 2008? ........: 2 0 0 8 -- Updated USB stack may be released. (Problem of Exigen Latvia was: no bug-tracker, no feedback from users) 2 0 0 8 -- Flashdisks, step 3: USB stack refresh -> then flash disks support may be improved 2 0 0 8 -- ACPI todo: suspend/resume VPIC.SYS Speedstep/Throttling/AMDPowerNow Create utilities (ACPI Setup, ..) 2 0 0 8 -- eCS works well on Core Duo, it's necessary improve the support of QuadCore, 8 core CPUs. (This requires significant changes in kernel) Panorama VESA + widescreen: ATI HD 4850, Robert Lalla: the source of that "Unsupported BIOS format" problem has been found. ATI/AMD changed the contents and size of modelines to be patched in that 2008 dated atom-bios. I expect a fix can be done, but not quick one, and will need careful testing before publishing it. Give me a couple of weeks. Kernel 2 0 0 8 -- Kernel for debug purposes Security 2 0 0 8 -- Viruses. If > 1 million users then ...... ......... ...... - ... . 2008 !!! ........... yup: .. Multimedia: 2 0 0 8 -- RAW -- RAW formats in expensive cameras. eCo Software failed to deliver IO Proc. Community: OS/2 World awards. important to reward the developers and fans. Windows Vista Another item in the development lab right now it find an easy method to install eCS 2.0 next to Windows Vista (Microsoft modified a few items in the disk layout system). How many new users may join after eCS 2.0 release? We need dosenz of students We are waiting for people familiar with IBM OS/2 ...... 8: ROADMAP: ... ..... . 2009? // ... Perfect - ......... .. 2009, 2010. 8.1 Drivers 2 0 0 9 -- ACPI for eComStation strategy: We can see that users install/setup ACPI not properly, they don't make simple experiments to adjust ACPI setup. Conclusion: the users should make the research locally, run local tests, adjust ACPI/drivers setup without help of support service. It's necessary give more test scripts, more setup programs. 2 0 0 9 -- Panorama Intel (since 2007) It's necessary check the state of Panorama VESA video driver. One manufacturer should be supported with 2D acceleration; Problem: Intel X3000 - it's necessary develop 3D driver. No resources, frozen. Improve video-drivers for mini-notebooks. Intel 945. ......: ...... ....... .. .? ..... ..... .....? 2 0 0 9 -- USB 3.0 support USB 3.0 was announced at Intel Developer Forum (fall 2007) It is developed by Intel, Hewlett-Packard, Microsoft, NEC, NXP Semiconductors, Texas Instruments. 10x times increase of speed (USB 2.0: 480 Mbit/sec -> USB 3.0: 5 Gbit/sec) A completed USB 3.0 specification is expected by the first half of 2008. USB 3.0 is debugged and fully functional (the development of USB 3,0 is started in 2009) 2 0 0 9 -- EFI computers -- Check if 10% of new computers on the market are EFI-only, then implement support of EFI; (moved from 2007) Support of large harddisks -- 2 Tb? 512 Gb? ... .........? ....... os2dasd.dmd 1 ....., .........../.......... . ..... ... . ....... ......... Support of RAM > 4 Gb -- ?? 8.2 -- eComStation PC, hardware ......... ........ ..... - ......... ....... ....... . ............ ... ... ..... ............. ......... ... ....... ....... 512.... .... ...... ..... 2.., . .. ... ..... ....... ......... . ..... Touchscreen. We need support of different Touchscreen devices. As soon as possible. (The devices are available ... ...... Very popular in kiosks.) Even if we have Java VM - it's not enough, we need support of USB security keys. 8.1 -- Networking 2 0 0 9 -- It's necessary check what is the status of IPv6. No need in IPv6 till 2009 because other OSes support IPv4. The main improvement brought by IPv6 is a much larger address space that allows greater flexibility in assigning addresses. There are hardware gateways to connect IPv4 networks to v6 networks 8.2 eComStation infrastructure: Let's start the discussion of Security. Protection of system files.. IF we expect more users then viruses, trojans to appear. GCC 3.4.6 -> 4.x (required by: Mozilla), moreover: current compiler, extra cpu optimisation Java VM -- Sun has not open sourced everything we need to make the files compile on eComStation. Early reseach indicates that some of library files we need to even try and compile Java on OS/2 are not open source but are Windows/Linux binaries. 8.3 Kernel: ...... .... ....... ....... . ... ..... . ........ 8.3 Software: 2 0 0 9 -- ... ... software .......... ..... ........: Look at Mensys catalogue, 150 products, 1/3 is dead. Conclusion: we need 20-50 new applications. 2 0 0 9 -- RAW support -- FAILED, (since 2007 -- RAW I/O Procedure to preview photos made using modern digital still cameras) How to view large photos? 5-14 Mb ? NeoIB viewer! 2 0 0 9 -- Games. Zero contacts with games companies. So.. don't expect to get games. What to do? ... sNOa.. Flash player, current state: 2008/11/25: eComStation is now a licensed platform to distribute the Flash plugin. Now a developer will look at how to get it working. OpenOffice.org 3.1 is planned to 2009. 2 0 0 9 -- Internet TV. (WarpVision? mplayer already exist) 8.4 Books How to increase population: Books (User's manual, ..) -> ... Software -> ... User's manual, Applications for eComStation (esway-526) no.. it's cheaper to publish this information in the Internet. 8.5 Conquest of new markets: 2 0 0 9 -- ...! SLIDE-X: ......, ......... .. ... ........ ...... . .........: ..... .... ...... ...... ECS? .: ... ....... .... ........! (eCS as Media Center; TV, via eComStation, output to TV set) 8.6 eComStation 2 0 0 9 -- eComStation 2.1 is planned (CUPS, ..) To increase the value of eComStation pack, it's necessary include 10-20 additional small applications (scheduler, backup, address book, etc) and 5-7 large applications (catalogues, etc). 8.7 Mobile devices are very important. 2 0 0 9 -- Let's say the PC market is roughly 200 million units these day, grows 15 percent a year. Mobile devices (Cell phones) = billion units a year. it's necessary create a site or sub-page and some users will concentrate on connectivity of mobile devices and eCS. This is a strategic goal, important for survival of our platform. 2 0 0 9 -- (since 2006) OpenGL ES (software) should be ported. It is critical for students. We are talking about static 3D rendering. FAILED, no developers 8.12 -- User Interface: Visit Presentation: NeoWPS desktop, let's discuss what will happen with User Interface (since 2007) If you have documents on the disk, then you need a search tool. If 30-50 new medium applications are integrated to WPS and users live on desktop then it's necessary add Search engine to the operating system. 8.12 -- Community Interview. we need heroes.. NLS: eCS /Rus, /De, .. should be always ready and don't require additional efforts => apps/utils should work even if no translation. Else: The translators can't wait when eCS v.new is finished. Development means: New kernel - logging to com3 (OS2LDR) logging to usb and ethernet/8168 - FAILED debug via keyboard - TODO debug via infrared - TODO Black list: Firewire - USB replaced the Firewire standard. web-browsers: Google .. ......... ...... ... eComStation, ....... Google Chrome ... eComStation ....... .. ...... ...... ... .... ............. .... .. .......... Firefox3 ... eComStation - ..... ...... ...-........ Internet phone The situation doesn't change, the developers are using SIP phones already, so don't expect to get software solution. Fibre Channel Host Bus Adapter -- useful in clustering environments. Skype: the developers can share library and kernel (STOP! they don't have eCS PC and eCS developers). Who will implement GUI? What to do with Skype DDK for Windows? Kernel = sound/video processing, hardware support (network, audio) ...... 9: ROADMAP: ... ..... . 2010? 9.1 -- 2 0 1 0 -- Kernel Let's use the open-source kernel from Team/2. It's 100% compatible with IBM kernel. allows improve drivers allows run eCS on new hardware 9.2. -- 2 0 1 0 -- ACPI It's necessary check the state of ACPI drivers. By default eComStation is running on any model of PC till 2009. ......... ....: ......... ............ . 2010 .... ......... ...... 9.3 -- 2 0 1 0 -- Knowledge exchange ........ ..... ..... ..... .......... ........., ......... DevCon .............. os2voice, os2ezine ...... 10: eComStation PC ... ..... eCS PC -- http://ecomstation.ru/ecspc ....... eComStation PC: ........ ....... eCS PC . ...... ...? ........: . Apple ...... ........ 5 ....... ........... ..... ...... ........, ..... ........... . eCS ... ..... ............ ..... ....... ........, .......... ....... .. ...... Apple? ... ......? ...-.... ........., ... . .... ...... eCS PC ... ........ ASUS M87 . ......... Dell 1545? ...... 11: Perfect eComStation Step 1: Publish the criteria how to replace modules, technologies, sub-systems, utilities. To attract 1 new user we should offer: Different product, if compare with other OSes Use different selling methods. (?? software subscription) ....... ..? ....... .......... ......: ..... 50 ........ ....... . ... ..... + 10000 ...... (.. ... 100 ........ . .........) ... . ....... .. .....: Mensys catalogue in 1997 = 300 products Mensys today: 50 alive, 150 listed Windows in Russia: 10000 products 11.1 ... ..... ........ ..? .... (........) API ....... UI ....... ............. eComStation should become more mobile, download installer scripts from Internet. Drivers are changing, updates are released every month. to protect eCS against pirates There are fresh ideas and suggestions in the forum Perfect eComStation 11.6 -- System Database We are lacking dozens of small database applications. Why? Np database. SQL 11.7 -- ...... OS/2 controls = ........... ..... ....... ...... = .........., ..... ...... ....... ....... ........ .... ..... ..... - ..... ....... ......, ..... .... ..... ......... eCo Software runtime includes: useful libraries Templates of PM applications 11.2 Node applications, service applications 11.2-a: Software updates client. To accelerate the distribution of software: it's necessary create Catalogue (you install it on local PC, the program is checking for software updates every day) the developers are not able to distribute news about updated applications. FAILED: Roadmap 2008, all software is distributed via eComStation Software Catalogue application. Users need semi-automatical update of software, developers need direct contact with every user. The application should allow to manage installed software, view catalogue of available software, download updates. 11.2-b: To replace 1000 small applications with 3-5 medium products, it's necessary create Automator/2, .. SLIDE: virtualization VBox VMWare (guest support) ......? ...... 13: Applications Users need applications, not OS itself. It's impossible ....... Windows .......... ......., .... .. .... API, ......... .. ......., .... .... ........... ...... 1: ... ........, ... .......... ......., ......../.... .....? ...... 2: Why no applications? Because, 80% of applications were not published (........ . ......) 10% released version 1.0 and died We are using 10% of applications Because it's difficult to create application with a technology inside it's difficult to debug, test ...... 3: How to change the situation? Create mini-companies. 2-3 developers should join and manufacture the software as small companies. Make the developers open-source application if no updates. Software updates client. !!! .., .., .. ........: ..... .........., ..... ......... ..... .... .......? ...... .......? .........? ...... 4: ...... ....... .......... .. ..... .........? ........... - ....., ...... .... ........... ....., OpenOffice.org ......... .... - ??? .. ..... ......... .....-..... ...... .... SMPlayer, .... CD/DVD Toys ...... 14: eComStation PC ... ........ .. ..... http://ecomstation.ru/ecspc . ... ......? ........., ...... ... ....... ...... 12: .... . .......... // .. ........ .. ......., . ...... . ..... ... ........... PIC: .. ....... .......... ........ ........... ...: ..... ...... .... eComStation .... ............, . ..... ............ eComStation ..... .... ..... ........ . ..... .... ...... ......., . ...... ........ ... ........., -- . ..... ......... ........... (.... .. Windows . Linux . ......) ......... ...... ...... -- .... ........ . ......... ........ .... .. ........ .... ....., . ..... ........... ..... (.. ...... ..) ..... eCS ..... ... .. eCS baby.. :) . ... . ........ 35 ...... .... .... .......... ......... .... .......... eComStation If users/developers are loaded with work than they continue to use eCS. If they don't have goals then they look at other communities // = ......... ........ HOT: Identify yourself at this cycle. Please, execute your obligations. How life is going? Homepage of community PIC: ........ .. ...... 5 ...... ........, ..... ...... 12.1 -- Roles: Users Users can do: write reviews (contact the developer, request a reward) pay for software !!! this is the main method to participate in the life of community make screenshots of desktop to help in promotion Declare: "I need new applications and features: .." A) eCS is commercial OS. People don't want to buy it. What to do? We should publish detailed info about the system. All screenshots, all features. This is the only way to increase the population. B) Community overview: * Users don't write reviews anymore. Professional developers / specialists are writing all texts. Example: ecomstation.ru 12.x -- Roles: Managers .. .......... ....... ....... .... .... .......... ....... ......... ........, .. ........ ...... ..... ...... ....... ..... ..........., ... ...... ......... - ..... ..... .... ........... 12.2 -- Roles: ............. ..... ............ ......., .. ....... . .. ..... ..... ..... ....... * If no TV advertisement then it's necessary open the process of development (i.e. publish notes about new system components during the development, short reviews, FAQs) ........ ............. .......... ....... Create tools for developers, templates of applications (DevCon site: http://ecomstation.ru/developer) Create software for users (medium applications) Publish 100.. 1000 tasks for developers and users. 1%-10% will be implemented. How to get sysutils? Invest into PM-controls, ask the developer create demo apss = updated/new sysutils. Mensys is obligated to share their knowledge: what is the purpose of drivers, dlls, .. All information should be published in wiki databases. Mensys is receiving maximal amount of information about eComStation OS. But.. Mensys generates 0 knowledge (1-2 announcements per 3 monthes, correct me if I am wrong) (Input: 80% of information. Output: 0 information.) Examples: what is the purpose of every file on CD1? (important for developers) list of sub-systems of the OS? (important for developers) CONFIG.SYS description - additions to http://www.edm2.com/index.php/The_Config.sys_Documentation_Project (important for developers and users) description of boot process? (useful for those who try to boot from USB, EeePC) Mensys: No people resources Mensys should open a site "stack of tasks for developers". In other words, the queue of utilities, dlls which you need for eCS and which should be created. So thirdparty developers can see what do you need and help if no free developers inside the team. ...... ........... .....: ..... Give freedom to eComStation demo-CD. Arguments: + 0 updates in the last years + if standalone users create 5-10 modified demo-cds then you can use their improvements and release improved official demo-CD without efforts. + N OS/2 users/developers will equip it with software. + The live-CD will attract thousands of new users. It's free, if it is useful for multimedia or networking Mensys: "we are perfectly aware of the fact that a new demo CD is needed." eCS REFORM: The leader should ......... every day, answer to hot questions, tell about current works. Else - look at the experience in 90-th.. No organization.. no responsibility.. SLIDE: 80%, 20%, major part of software is never released, the developers keep the unfinished program in a garage. What does it mean? The GOV should support the developers, provide the infrastructure (knowledge, shop, bug-tracker) 12.3 -- Roles: ...... New site: web-server based on eComStation. How to install eCS on notebook X, reviews of applications!!!!! .., .., .. reviews links to how to build stable version list of large succesful sites working on eCS eCS is N times more expensive than Windows. How to sell eCS? Include more software to eCS. 12.3.b -- Export ....... ..... ........ ... .. - .... ....... OS/2 ....... ....... ........ - ... .. ..... 12.3.c -- We need better Web Software catalogues (eCSoft/2, APeCS, eCS Canada) It's necessary 1) screenshots 2) easy listings of apps: 20 apps per page 12.4 -- Roles: ........., ...... Intro: .......... ..... (internal market) is ........, ...... ..... ........... ..... ..... (now let's expand the market). .... ..........: ........ .........., . ... ........ ...... .... ....... ......... .......... .... ............. ............ .??? Idea N 1: If you have sold One eCS license - it's a starting point. The true goal is to sell software for eComStation, not OS license only. To increase sellings: publish your catalogue To increase sellings: sell via giant internet shops - advertisement Idea N 2: eCS resellers should sell not eCS only but shareware products too. yes.. the income from shareware for resller is not high.. but this will increase your eCS sellings. Idea N 3: The creation of eComStation 1.2.5, eComStation 2.0 required huge efforts, equal to millions of dollars. Current question: how to sell existing product? It is useful already There is no need to discuss future improvements if current version is not sold. The resellers should make the efforts: rotate banners, publish marketing materials. Users! Please press your resellers request for detailed catalogue. Not eCS only but ask about shareware products too. This makes the reseller work better. buy eCS PC from reseller. not in super-market. 12.5 -- Roles: Developers Windows is strong because there are many powerful/cool applications. Conclusion: The developers (and businessmen) form the market, form the operating system. So.. eComStation is strong if standlone developers make the innovations. STATUS: eCS is changing.. ........... ...-.. ............ ...., ...... ...... ............ ..... ....... ........ Main advice: work in workgroup. Alone developer is unable to create a product. Always work in team, division of labor. (Example: eCo Software) Old software is useless. Tasks changed, internet changed. New applications are needed. How you can help to make eComStation popular? The answer is very simple: Create applications which have better UI, more simple but reliable and stable. Create perfect sites which demonstrate your software. IF users from other OSes see the eComStation software is cool then they migrate to eComStation. ..... ......... "......... ...-......"? - ..., .... ..... .... ...... ........ Porting is not enough, it's necessary make innovations, research wide areas, create specific sites. ........ ..... (N) ........, .... ....... .. ...... ....... ....., N x ......... ..... = ........... ..... ............ .. ..... ... ....... ............. ...... ........... ....... .. 3 .... ......, ..... ........... ... ....... .......... .... ............ . ............ ..............: ........ .... .. ....... ......, ...... - .. ....... ....... .....: .... .... . ......... ....... ....... How to develop software? < unicllip < OpenOffice < GCC compiles < .. < device drivers updated < widgets < ACPI < CRC < .. One large project which pushed many small projects Visit DevCon presentation - we are going to discuss how to create successful software. What to develop? Some ideas from the forums, attention! care about OS (integrate to node apps, use libs). Forum: I need new application How many programs to create? IBM OS/2 Warp, 1997 -- 300 .. 500 products, today: 50 Mensys Windows: 500 today, => eCS needs 300.. 500 shareware/commercial products to attract new users, to compete with Win/Lin/Mac. Unsorted * 1 ........ - ...... 1 .......... ..... ......., ...... - . ..... ....../...... * ...... 1 ........... . ... ...... ...... - .. ....... . ... ..... ............. => ............. ...... ........... ..... . ........... .. 3 .... ...... Attention: Don't port software to Windows. Examples: PMView, .. - all this software failed on Win market. (..... ... .. ........) 12.6 -- Roles: new users Q: ... ..... ......... ......... eCS? ...... ... ..... ....... .....-..... ......, .. ..... ...... ........: ... ......... .........?! ..... 1: eComStation PC Let's attract foreign developers to eCS market? ... .... .......... .. .......... ...... ...... .......... ...... ...... ........ *.....* .. ........ ....... ........: RU: ...... ......... ............. -- http://www.samag.ru/ ....... ........: ALL: www.osnews.com 12.7 -- Roles: ........ ... ........ ...? ...... .... ....... .........., ....... .... .......... . ...... eComStation ..... .......... .... ............ .... ........ - N ........ ...... .... ... .. ..... ...... ........ .. ....... .... 30 ........-............... .... .... . ........., ...... .. ....... .......... .... ....... ........ 30 ........ - ..... ...... ...... ...., ..... .......... .......... .. ...... .... ......, .. .. ....... ....... ............. . ....... ........ ...... ......... ..... ....... .. .......... (.......) ...... .. .. 20$, . .. 100, 400, 800$ .. ...? ... ... ........? ... ... ........ ..... 1 ...? ...... .. ........, .. ............. .......? ........ ..... .......... ...... .. ...... . ...... ......../............. ..... ....... ......... .... ............ .. ...... . ..... ....... ..... ...... ...... ........ 12.8 -- Roles: OS developers eCS REFORM, Professional developers, fulltime. .......... eCS: ...... ......... . ............. ..... .. ......... ... ........ Mensys ... ........ eCo Software ....... ............. ....? Windows 95 = 2000 + 2000 testers + 400 managers + 2500 customer-support ? Windows v.next = 2500 ... ...... ............... ..? ... .. ....., ......... .. ......... ....... ...-.. ...... ....... ...... + ............. . ........... ......./.......... ...... .... ....... ...... (node apps) ......, eCS developers are creating 1/2 of program, standalone developer create own 1/2. It's very difficult to participate in eCS development. Main rule: don't expect that somebody will tell you what to do, will reward you. Help to eCS DevGroup, implement basic task, then start your own extensions, analyze your ideas together with other eCS team members. Don't wait that somebody will tell you what to do. 12.9 -- Roles: Foreign developers/companies Foreign = working on other market today. They will start the development if we have > 1 million users. The community 1 million if many companies develop software. RUS: ... ........ ..... ........? .... .......... ..... ..... .. ..... eCS. . ......, .... ..... ..... ........, ... ..... 1 ....... ......... Developers of large industrial software come to eComStation market if we have 1 million of users. So we should use internal resources. Don't expect that foreign developer can create something. Pixel Image editor - this pushed SDL library. But Pixel is not finished. Conclusion: We should make all work by ourselves. Don't expect new products from foreign developers/companies. TODO Today: We should describe the market of eComStation (solutions page, companies list, full list of shareware/commercial products) The developers/companies may publish success stories. The only way to collaborate with Foreign developers - pay money for libraries, applications. Order the porting (Skype, ..) 12.10 -- Roles: Site editors (......... ......) !!! New sites = only commercial sites are able to push the OS. the admin should be interested to update news, software news. Without delays, with add-ons Do you have a forum on your site? Always show 10 latets topics on the Main page of the site else the forum dies. Do you post news? Adorn every news message with a screenshot or photo! Do you remember Warp ring.. ? Let's create the same thing os2voice.org newsletter - Please start rotation of commercial banners (eCo Software is ready to support this process) Important!! Create nodes to collect information, Create specific sites: site related to 3D site for students site related to Math eComStation NAS -- how to setup eCS PC which will work like a NAS. how to setup Windows clients for compatibility with this server. Java apps working in eCS -- there is one, where? Graphics editors + FAQ (how to create PNG with trasparency) Media Center (...........) Connectivity with Mobile devices Students 12.11 -- Students ... ........ students: The developers can create small apps and tools. port medium apps. No more.. How to create applications with know-how? with technology inside? Students! Sci-tech labs! Whatsnew in 2008: NONE 12.12 -- Solutions developers They found the basis of sellings. The solutions developers need: touchscreen support toolkit to create graphical interfaces for POS internet libraries, security libs. drivers for network adapters, WiFi Let's create a site (pic1, pic2, pic3, pic4, pic5 pic6 pic7) Q: Main question - how to create N new solutions? A1: Buy companies which own technologies A2: . ... ..... .....: ......, .... - ..... ..... ......... 12.13 -- Businessmen Commercial software is important the owner is promoting it, *promiting the operating system*! Many free projects are sponsored by commercial organizations. ...... 100: FAQ, Q: ..... ..... eComStation? 1. eComStation - ... ..... (center) ........... ..... ........... 2. .......... eComStation - .... .............. / ..... ..., ... ....../........ ... ... (....... ......., ......... ....../......... ...... ......../...... .............) 3. eComStation ....., .... .. .. ...... ....... ....... 4. eComStation ....., .... . eComStation .... .........., .... .......... know-how. Q: eCS - ... ........? A: ..... .... Microsoft OS/2, .... IBM OS/2 . 90-. ........ BMT Micro, Mensys ........ ........... ......, ............... OS/2- ... . .... eCS. ...... 101: Today: Niche of eComStation PIC: ..... ........, ............ ....... ........... . ..... ..... ........ - .... ... .. ......... ..... .. 1 ...... ... ........ ....... There are 4 types of PC usage: 1. Business usage - word processing, spreadsheets, mail and web access - these do not need hi-performance video or audio and as such are an obvious starting point for virtualisation, either locally or network based. 2. Gaming PCs - which cannot function without hi-performance video and audio. 3. Design workstations - which again need hi performance graphics but audio is not so important. 4. Home - media centre type PCs, which again need hi performance graphics and audio and special hardware such as a DVB-T TV tuner. + 5. PC as Solution / measuring instrument / .. eCS - ... ....... ... ...... ..........? .....: ... . ... . .... ..... N ........ ...... .....-.. ......., .. .................. . ......... ..... ...... ........ ......, What is the purpose (niche) of eComStation? (= ........ eComStation ...:) ... .... .. .... ... PC, ....... ..... ......... ...: to run DOS applications It is used in Solutions -- http://ecomstation.ru/solutions ..... ... HOME & SOHO ... ............ ... The niche of eComStation ....... ....: yandex - ....., mail.ru - ....., rambler - ? macosx - .., beos - ..........., ecs - ... inet generation.. - ..... BeOS: Multimedia niches where BeOS shined, such as real-time video editing with a relatively inexpensive system. .... eCS - ........ ... ......., .. ............ .... ... ..... (eCo Software ........, Mensys ........) eCS should conquest markets: Sci-tech labs medicine, control of medicine devices (this gives profit to humanity ) tools for students, engineers, scientists (this kinds of people bring innovations, solutions) .... eComStation Personal OS. for personal notebook or barebone. ........ .................. ......... ....... ......: ....... ....... ....... .. .... eCS ....... ... ....... ..........: ....... .. ...... eCS - ... ........ .. eCS. ....... .......... -- ......... .......... ........ ...........: ........, ... ......, ............ ........ ... .......... .... eCS ...... ............ ......... ... ......... .......... JPG, RAW ... ........... ............ Microsoft Office, .... ..... ............. ......... Microsoft Office .. OpenOffice. We are going to promote eCS as system for SOHO. How it works? home user should migrate to eComStation/home. if this user is a boss or technical specialist, he purchases a license for office .. if thousands of small companies are using eCS then large companies start using it. ...... 105: ..... eComStation ...... ....... .......... (eComStation Level 2) . 2009 .... ...... ......... ............ .......... B) Fun - ...... .... ......... .... . ........... ....... .......... ........... .., ... ........, .... .... ....... "-" .. .. ..... ..... ...... ........ . ..... .......... ........... .. ...... ...... .......... ...... ......... "-" .... .... ......, .. fun ........ .............. C) ........ ...... ........... .......... ........... .... ........... ....... ........ ...... ...... D) ..... ...... ........... ....... 2 ....... x 7 ...... . ..... E) Attract new developers. ...... 20: eComStation 3.0 ..... ECS ..... ............ ........., ..... ........: N ............. M ........ K ........ eCS PC .. ... ...? ..........: .......... ........ eComStation ......... ......... ............ .......... ....... ............ eComStation ...... 21: .......... ...... (... ... .........) ...... . ...... ...... ... ....?! ... .....-.. ......... .... ....... ... ...... . ........... ..... ...: ....... ....... . 5 ....... ....... ... "Homework" ...., Goals (..... ....... 5 ....... - ...., ...., ....) .... N 1 -- Applications, applications, applications. No reason to create better kernel/drivers if no applications. ..../..... N 2 - eComStation Media Center ... .... ........ ........, ............... .... .......... ..../..... N 3 - Sync ......., sync everything with everything any mobile device <> eCS eCS <> second PC ..../..... N 4 - eComStation screenshots Try to find good eComStation screenshots in the Internet. ZERO.. Please update the desktop, Make a screenshot, publish it in the Internet. ..../..... N 5 - Support the developers! Publish a review of 10 applications or 1 utility ..../..... N 6 - Attract attention to eCS! How to attact attention, how to become the best, how to innovate? Example 1: *include* useful applications to eCS: * podcast manager (web-server which is translating video/audio/data..) Example 2: spread screenshots with eCS desktop. * show good designed software ..... 4 -- ... ...... . ..... .......: ....... ....... .... ........ .... .......... ...... 22: ... ...... ...........? ... ......., ..... ...... ...........? ......... . ...., .......... ??? ......... . UI. ??? ... .. ....., .... . ...... ... ... ............ Test the program: Can I use social networks from eComStation? Can I manage my bank account from eCS? share your experience.. Komentarze: ........... ............ 2008-12-10 09:20:22 ..... ............ ..... ......... ........ ........... ........... ......., . ... .. ... .. ..........? Sten Solberg 2008-12-23 18:00:49 Hi Gorbunoff! Reading this link [url] in Firfox under Linux, most of the text appears as garbled. Probably an error in the conversion from cyrillic? Best regards Sten Solberg Rich Wonneberger 2008-12-24 04:35:53 I was glad to get a message that eCS was still being developed. I still use 1.2 on one system. I would like to pass a bit of feedback. From the mail link to the page: [url] I have been using Seamonkey on a Windy box for e-mail at the moment. Was I supose to put the 'CODE:' in the blank field under it? No info shown. A lot of the message displayed unknown charecters in it. I changed the encoding to other choices such as Unicode (UTF-8 and Western European (Windows) and did see some of the graphics, but a lot of text may be un-viewable. I see others have posted similar. I would be interested in eCS 2.0 when its released with everything working. Please keep up the good work. Rich W. Eric McCormick 2010-03-02 15:25:03 Text is indeed un-viewable, probably because of Cyrillic. Try to multinational sites wrote on universal language (in this case english.) Visit <a href="http://www.fedeltapos.com/">Point of Sale</a> store if you like. Regards, E It's easy to maintain eComStation: a) Fast installation (20 minutes and it's ready), b) Universal drivers, replace a device - the system boots and continues work, c) Use eCS to recover damaged Windows (no danger to be infected by virus)

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